The Great 1864 vs. 1887 Constitution Debate

THE GREAT 1864 vs. 1887 CONSTITUTION DEBATE

The solution to this great mystery is to look at the statements and actions surrounding Her Majesty Lili'uokalani, the Queen if the Hawaiian Islands. She was highly educated in many facets included the "art of reigning".

First issue is in 1890 amendments were proposed and 1892 the approved amendments went into affect amending the Constitution of 1887.

Here is three examples show from excerpts from historical documents, including the Queen, herself.

A. F. Judd stated in his interview with Hon. James H. Blount: to wit:

Q. You indicated a desire to make a statement in reference to certain occurrences in the legislature of 1892.
A. The body of Kalakaua arrived here on the 29th of January, 1891. At 2 o'clock that day Liliuokalani took the oath to support the constitution of 1887, which I administered. Kalakaua's cabinet consisted then of Cummings, C. N. Spencer, Godfrey Brown, and A. P. Peterson. There was a great deal of discussion and wire pulling as to whether that cabinet should have the right to continue. Finally the opinion of the court was asked and it was held that she had liberty to ask for their resignations. They resigned and she appointed Parker, minister of foreign affairs; Widemann, finance; Spencer, interior, and, Whiting, attorney-general.

The Executive Documents of the House of Representatives for the Second Session of the Fifty-third Congress 1893-'94. In Thirty-one Volumes. 1895
REPORT OF COMMISSIONER TO THE HAWAIIAN ISLANDS
Excerpts from document No. 28. Page 376.

Liliuokalani's statement to Hon. James H. Blount: to wit:

^{On

that day(1), at 11, I was told that I was

to take the oath. I sent a note immediately to my husband(2) (at Washington Place) who was lying on a sick bed, and told him of the

arrival of my brother's remains, and of all that had transpired, and he

came to the palace as weak as he was.}

^{We conversed on the subject be us; also about

the constitution. I told him I did not wish to sign it, as there was a

general feeling in the community, and principally amongst the native Hawaiians,

that it was not a good constitution, as it had been forced on the King

and the Hawaiian people, but my husband persuaded me to sing it, and I

obeyed.}

^{At 2 o'clock p. m. we entered the room where

all the privy councillors were assembled and there, in their presence,

I took the oath of office and swore to abide by the constitution

of 1887. As we left the room and waited in the blue room to receive

congratulations as well as condolences, just before the members came in

a piece of paper, hurriedly written, was thrust in my hand, on which was

written, "Do not sign the constitution; I shall soon explain why." But

the deed was done. Chief Justice Judd was the first who came forward, but

instead of congratulations, said in an undertone, "Should your ministers

come up, say to them that they may keep their portfolios." I suspected

something wrong and kept my countenance.}

The Queen's own purposed constitution's preamble, to wit:

Draft Constitution of January 14, 1893.

PREAMBLE

Whereas the constitution of this Kingdom contains many provisions inconsistent, ambiguous and contradictory in its terms, and is subversive and restrictive of civil and popular rights, and incompatible with enlightened constitutional monarchical government; and

Whereas the prayers of my people, coming in the form of petitions from all parts of this Kingdom, to myself and to the Legislature, asking for a new constitution embodying in it provisions equal rights among all my subjects; which prayer to the Legislature of this Kingdom has not been duly recognized by that body through undue and unjust influences; and

Whereas it has become imperative in order to restore order and tranquillity, and to gratify the just demand of my subjects for a new constitution to be remodeled upon the most liberal and popular form of Constitutional Monarchical Government, that a new constitution be at once promulgated.

Now, therefore, I, Liliuokalani, Queen of the Hawaiian Islands, in my capacity as Sovereign of this Kingdom, and as the representative of the people, and in accordance with their almost universal desire, and in conformity with their wishes, do annul and abrogate the constitution promulgated by Kalakaua on the 7th day of July, A. D. 1887, and do proclaim and promulgate this constitution.

The Executive Documents of the House of Representatives for the Second Session of the Fifty-third Congress 1893-'94. In Thirty-one Volumes. 1895
REPORT OF COMMISSIONER TO THE HAWAIIAN ISLANDS
Excerpts from Draft Constitutions 1893 - PART IV - MISCELLANEOUS No. 2, Page 518.

Conclusion:

They are many revisionist whom want to change history by alleging many events and coming to conclusion of their own through assumptions. Were they there? Can they attest to the facts?

The Queen was there!.we weren't.she swore an oath to the Constitution of 1887.

The Constitution of 1887 may have been a bad one, as many have stated, including the Queen.

Denying its existence will not make it go away or change events that have already happened.

Set this argument aside and move on to reinstating our lawful government the Kingdom of Hawai`i, Hawaiian Kingdom, Government of the Hawaiian Islands, and the like.